When You Get It WRONG Not Once, Not Twice But Three Times!

Anna Who Were Your Parents?
Joseph Schindler & Carolina Lux,
Anton Beck & Carolina Lux,
or Someone Unexpected?Anna 8











Genealogy is the study of family lines. Correctly identifying each person in a family group is the cornerstone upon which everything rests. If you have incorrectly identified someone everything else beyond that person falls apart.  Such is the case that follows.

In 1987, shortly after I started doing genealogy, I was given two plus typed pages on the Schindler family. The title of the document is Augusta Schindler.1 There is no date or author for these pages. There are no citations or sources other than a few vague references to some transcripts in the court house and the 1880 census. In other words no supporting evidence. At the time I accepted them as fact. These “facts” have spread far and wide. The problem is a number of these “facts” are not facts at all. This case study will be looking at a couple of those “facts.” Future posts will explore some of the others.

Augusta Schindler papersAugusta Schindler papers.

The First Assertion a “Fact”:

The oldest child of Joseph Schindler and his wife Carolina Lux was Anna.

This assertion has been accepted for a least two generations, past and present. You can still find several Ancestry Member Trees both public and private that record Anna as Anna Schindler the daughter of Joseph Schindler and Carolina Lux.2 It is easy to see why this assertion would be seen as “fact.” In every single record found in the U. S. including her marriage record Anna is always Anna Schindler and her death certificate states her father was Joseph Schindler mother unknown.3

Anna Schindler records
Anna Schindler’s records.

Year Record Name DOB AGE
1852 Ships Passenger List Anna Schindler 7
1857 MN Territorial Census Ana Schneider (sic) 13
1860 U. S. Census Anna Schindler 15
1863 Church Census Anna Schindler 11 Nov 1844 N/A
1865 MN State Census Anna Schindler N/A
1868 Marriage Anna Schindler N/A
1928 Death Certificate Anna Schindler Schwartz 11 Nov 1844 84

The first time I actually started to seriously question this assertion was after a four month research trip to Europe in 2007. One of my stops on that trip was in Poland. It was here that I found the evidence to prove the Schindler’s and Lux’s were from Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia. Today Kreis Frankenstein is located in Dolnośląskie, Poland.4

Silesia MapOverlay of the 1815 Prussian Silesia boarders on a modern map. Does not include Austrian Silesia.

Prior to arriving in Poland I hired a local researcher, Ewa [pronounced Eva] to work with me. The early church registers are located at the Archiwum Archidiecezjalne Biblioteka Kapitulna (Archdiocesan Archives and Library) in Wrocław, Poland on Cathedral Island (Ostrow Tumski).

Arial ArchivesClick on the image to go to Google Earth and explore Cathedral Island.

The island is large. The area where the archive is located is spectacular. If memory serves there are seven churches and the Cathedral in the same area. The streets are narrow and made of cobblestone. The buildings are red brick dating back to the 12th century. Church towers towering above, I felt as though I had stepped back in time.


Upon entering the archives you are standing in a small vestibule. It takes a moment to adjust to the dim lighting. On the right is a chair and small table. On the table is a small lamp, a single booklet, some paper and pencils. The booklet contains a listing of the archives holdings. Organized by Kreis, and parish, each parish register has a signature number. Once you locate the registers you are interested in, you write the signature numbers on a slip of paper present the slip to a nun, who descends a staircase to retrieve them. Off the vestibule is a hallway with several rooms to each side. Each room contains a number of tables and chairs. The room smells of old paper and history. Arched windows line one wall, another wall has a vintage armoire. Open the door, and you see it is lined with shelves. At the end of the day, place the registers on a shelf in the armoire for the next day’s research.

I could “read” parts of the registers — mostly names, dates and the sacrament being performed. There were no copy machines and photographs were not allowed. Everything needed to be abstracted. Both Ewa and I went to work. The registers are heavy most are about five to six inches thick. The individual pages are thick and have a slight texture to them. They are soft and warm to the touch. You know you are touching history.

Ewa was much faster than I, and when I could not figure something out I would ask for help. I came across a marriage record dated 28 September 1847 for a Joseph Schindler to a Carolina Beck.5 At the time I disregarded this record. My flawed rationale was the three-page typed family history which asserted they were married in 1843 not 1847. Their oldest child Anna was born in 1844. Surely this is not them. I was so wrong.

Those of you who know me might be thinking,  “Is this why Ann is always asking, How do you know that? What is your source? Where did you get your information?” Or maybe you recall me saying, “You can’t say that. You don’t know that.” If that’s your memory of me, you are correct in your assessment. This is when I really began to understand the concept of evidence analysis. I had dropped the ball big time.

It was a couple of years after I returned to the States that I had a chance to really look at what Ewa and I had found in Poland. These church registers are available on microfilm at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I went to the library and scanned all the relevant rolls of microfilm and began the process of correlating all of Ewa’s and my abstractions to the actual records. It was during this process that I realized the marriage record I had found was the record of my 2x great-grandparents Joseph and Carolina.

Schindler_Lux marriageJoseph Schindler and Carolina (Lux) Beck marriage.

Some of the assertions from Joseph and Carolina’s marriage record.

  • Joseph Schindler was a single man from Gierichswalde, today Laskówka. His father was Joseph Schindler and he was deceased.
  • Carolina was a widow from Grochau, today Grochowa. Her maiden name was Lux.
  • Carolina’s first husband was Anton Beck.
  • Anton Beck was deceased.

Discovering Joseph’s and Carolina’s marriage record put into question the first assertion in a big way.

Joseph and Carolina’s first child born after their marriage in the fall of 1847 was Joseph Hieronimus (Latin for Jerome). He was born in Grochau and not Reigersdorf as the Augusta Schindler history asserted. Another one of those “facts.” He was baptized 14 January 1849.6 U. S. records assert he was born 10 January 1849.7 Anna’s birth from U. S. records gives a date of 11 November 1844.8 Carolina being a widow when she married Joseph certainly could explain the 4+ year age gap between Joseph Jerome and Anna and suggested that Anna could be a daughter of Carolina and her first husband Anton Beck.

Anton Beck and Carolina were married 8 May 1843.9 Both Anton and Carolina were residing in Grochau. Anton died 15 November 1846 at Grochau.10 Anton and Carolina are looking good for the parents of Anna. Anna’s U. S. birth date fits in nicely. She was born a year and a half after Carolina’s marriage to Anton and before Anton died.

Beck_Lux marriage
Anton Beck and Carolina Lux marriage.

The Second Assertion, Mine:

The woman known in the U. S. as Anna Schindler was probably the daughter of Anton Beck and Carolina Lux.

This assertion was first published in 2013 in my article “European Origins of Joseph Schindler and Carolina Lux of Carver County, Minnesota.”11 It didn’t take long for some of the trees on Ancestry to replace the first assertion with the second assertion. Currently eight public and three private trees on Ancestry show Anna as the daughter of Carolina and Anton Beck.12 One of the problems with “trees” is there is not an easy way to note that a child’s parent/parents may not be correct. In my article I wrote “probably.” However, probably never made it to the many trees that were changed. Probably was crumpled up and tossed out. The reasoning for using probably was there were no baptisms or burials found for any children of Carolina and Anton Beck. My thought was perhaps Anna was born in Reigersdorf located in the parish of Briesnitz. After all the Augusta Schindler history asserted all “four” of Joseph and Carolina’s children were born in Reigersdorf. The parish of Briesnitz is located next to the parish of Baumgarten where Grochau is located. Looking back, I am not sure what would have been a better word than “probably.” Perhaps the phrase “the working theory”? In any case more evidence subsequently found and analyzed does not support The Second Assertion and completely throws it out the window.

Kreis Frankenstein MockupKreis Frankenstein Catholic Parish Map13

The New Evidence:

Grochau is located in Kreis Frankenstein in Baumgarten parish. Baptisms, marriages and burials occurring in Grochau are recorded in the Baumgarten Parish registers. There is no evidence that Carolina moved from Grochau. As such, any child she gave birth to would be in the Baumgarten registers. Both Carolina and Anton were from Grochau when they married in 1843.14 Anton was residing in Grochau when he died in 1846.15 Carolina was still residing in Grochau when she married Joseph Schindler in 1847.16 And Carolina and Joseph’s first child was born in Grochau.17 While it is possible that Carolina had a child in another location it seems very unlikely. An entry by entry search was done in the Baumgarten baptism and burial registers between 1843–1846. There were no baptisms or burials found for any children born to Carolina and Anton.

Anybody who has been doing genealogy for a while knows that occasionally you hear whispers from beyond the grave. You might wake up in the morning with a whisper of a thought. Ann look at Anton’s cause of death. At first that might sound a little crazy. What on earth could Anton’s cause of death have to do with having children? That is a little out there Ann, even for you. It turns out it was not so crazy after all.

Anton Beck deathAnton Beck death record.

It took some help from several people to transcribe Anton’s cause of death. Turns out he died from Mastdarmkrampf.18 Mastdarmkrampf literally translates to rectal spasm. Really? You’ve got to be kidding! Right? Nope. Known as levator ani syndrome in English, the condition is a dysfunction of the pelvic floor.19 The main symptom is pain caused by spasms. “In men, the condition can cause painful ejaculation, premature ejaculation, or erectile dysfunction.”20 I don’t know about you but I am thinking there probably was not a lot of sexual relations if any going on in this marriage. Yes, you guessed it Anton’s cause of death supports the absence of children for Anton and Carolina. Please forgive me but when I saw the translation I laughed so hard my belly ached. I mean really— who was whispering to me to look at his cause of death? I know, I know it’s not funny. Well, at least for Anton it was not funny, but you gotta admit it does make you want to laugh.

If Anton and Carolina are not Anna’s parents then who are?

The Third Assertion:

In my post “One Leg of an Immigrant’s Journey: Liverpool, England to NYC in 1852” located here.  I wrote: “Anna Schindler age 7 on line 159 of the ship list is not a child of Joseph & Carolina nor is she actually a Schindler. She is Carolina’s niece who was the illegitimate daughter of Carolina’s younger sister Veronica Anna Maria Johanna Lux. Anna was baptized as Anna Lux on 18 May 1844.” I had found an illegitimate birth for one of Carolina’s sisters who was named Anna and “assumed” she must be the Anna on the ship’s list. Turns out I was wrong again!

The original purpose of this post was to write up the proof argument for my assertion in the “Immigrant’s Journey” post. I thought I had compiled a list of all of the potential baptisms in the church registers that could be Anna, but I missed one. The primary reason I missed it was because the clue was in the name of one of the Godparents and I was so sure that Anna was Carolina’s niece that I overlooked what was right in front of me. Talk about confirmation bias!

In the census Guardian Angels Catholic church created in 1863/64, Anna Schindler’s date of birth is recorded as 11 November 1844.21 It occurred to me that I needed to double check all of the baptisms recorded in November 1844. During this canvas the name Joseph Schindler literally jumped off the page. A Joseph Schindler is recorded as the father of one of the Godparents. The registers are set up with the baptism entry on the left side of the page. The opposite page is where tick marks are made for tallying and the baptismal number is recorded. When I scrolled over to the opposite page to find the baptismal number I was gobsmacked, utterly astounded. I could not believe my eyes.

Anna Schindler baptismAnna’s Baptismal Record

Do you see it? The last two words in the remarks on the right page. Tochter legitimiert, daughter legitimate.


On the 17th of November 1844 Father Langer baptized the illegitimate daughter of the maid Anna Maria Klein, daughter of the Gärtnerauszüglers Franz Klein who was born at Grochau on the 13th of November at 0800 and given the name Anna Maria Theresia.

  1. The unmarried Theresia daughter of the Gärtnerauszüglers Franz Klein who lives in Warta.
  2. The unmarried Louise, daughter of the deceased Häuslers Joseph Schindler from Gierichswalde.
  3. Amand Klodwig Gärtner from Gallenau.


On the 4th of June 1851 the Gärtner Joseph Schindler from Reigersdorf submitted a declaration of paternity. This child is legitimized as his daughter.

Far from being the illegitimate daughter of Veronica Johanna Lux, Carolina (Lux) Schindler’s sister, Anna was the illegitimate daughter of Joseph Schindler and a local maid, one Anna Maria Klein.

Anna’s death certificate recorded her birth as the 11th of November22 two days before the Baptismal register in Baumgarten. This discrepancy is of little consequence. Unknown to me, Anna’s death certificate did get her father correct. Anna was almost seven years old when Joseph declared his paternity. Like any other new record found in genealogy new questions arise. Did she know Joseph was her father prior to his declaration? She would have known her mother. Did her children know she was Joseph’s daughter from a previous relationship? Did she talk about her mother? What I wouldn’t give for a time machine.

Besides the stunning news of Anna’s real parentage, there is one more piece of information from the remarks that is relevant. By 1851 Joseph and Carolina had moved from Grochau to Reigersdorf. The first page of the August Schindler paper states that the Schindlers were living in Reigersdorf prior to their immigration. This statement is supported by Anna’s baptismal record. The paper made the assumption that the “four” children were born in Reigersdorf because that is where they were living before they immigrated. We now know that Anna and Joseph Jerome were born in Grochau and it appears that Mary and Albertine were born in Reigersdorf. Albertine was born 16 September 185123 after Joseph submitted his declaration of paternity. The Baumgarten parish register ends 31 December 1850 after Mary’s birth on 21 July 1850.24 Those dates suggest the Schindlers moved to Reigersdorf sometime after Joseph Jerome’s baptism in January 1849 and Mary’s birth in July 1850.


The paper trail clearly supports that Anna Schindler was not a Lux and in fact was the daughter of Joseph Schindler. Does DNA support the paper trail?

There are a plethora of Schindler descendants who have tested their DNA at AncestryDNA. Descendants for all of Joseph’s children who married and had children with one exception have been located in the AncestryDNA database. The one exception, Augusta Schindler the woman who is the title of those typed pages I received in 1987. A little ironic if you ask me.

Joseph Schindlers ChildrenEight of Joseph Schindler’s Eleven Children. [Mom affectionately calls this picture the Uglies.]

Only a few of those descendants have transferred their DNA to GEDmatch, Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), or MyHeritage.  The advantage of transferring your DNA file to the other sites is all three have a chromosome browser. A chromosome browser allows you to actually ‘see’ the pieces of DNA two or more people share. Is this required to work with DNA evidence? Strictly speaking no, but it does make it a whole lot easier and there is something magical about seeing the actual matching piece of DNA. Personally, I see AncestryDNA more like an abstract or finding aid. They give me some information but not all of it. The other companies chromosome browsers give me the chromosome number and the segment location for the match. For me it is the difference between looking at an abstract and holding or viewing the actual document. There really is nothing like it. In some cases a chromosome browser is absolutely essential to be able to analyze the matches to any degree of certainty.

NOTE: The next part may cause some of you to glaze over. That is OK. Suffice it to say the DNA evidence is not conclusive other than showing there is a genetic relationship. You can skip this part and jump to the RECAP.

The McGuire chart25 below contains the match information from AncestryDNA. Five descendants of Anna’s have been identified in the AncestryDNA database. They are the red boxes in the chart. I then used the “Shared Matches”26 tool on AncestryDNA and generated the shared matches these five had with my mom to create the chart. The shared matches are the blue boxes. Mom is the purple box. The numbers below specific individuals shows the total amount of shared DNA in centiMorgans (cM) and the total number of segments they share with the match in the box above the numbers. For example number 46 shares 29.5 cMs across two segments with number 15. The numbers below the line is the relationship, 2C2R (second Cousin twice Removed). The numbers in red are the range of total cMs found at the stated relationship level from The Shared cM project here.27

Where you see “Shared Match” I did not have access to the testers DNA to obtain the numbers or they have not responded through the message system at Ancestry. Numbers 16, 30, 34 and 49 have shared their DNA. Three shared matches not shown on the chart are children of shown test takers. There are another five shared matches not included on the chart. I was unable to identify where they belonged based on their user name and the kits are not attached to trees, nor have they responded to messages. The shared matches between the red kits and kit 16 and 30 were compared to mom’s shared matches. Kit 30 contained two shared matches not in Mom’s or kit 16 lists. The reason is detailed below.

The descendants of Joseph and Carolina Schindler have been well documented since their immigration in 1852. Because of the documentation I know where the DNA can be skewed due to double relationships. Carolina’s line has been documented back four more generations. I have not found any indication of the Schindler line and the Lux line connecting prior to Joseph and Carolina. However the records are not complete and there is a possibility that Joseph and Carolina share an ancestor. Joseph and Carolina’s children did not marry relatives from their ancestral villages.28 There is also the possibility that the Klein family is related to the Schindlers and/or the Luxes through another line.

Below test number 30 you will see ‘Two lines.’ Test 30’s ancestor Albertine and the red boxed test takers ancestor Anna married brothers. Because they married brothers an increase in the amount of shared DNA is likely. The two shared matches, mentioned above, kit 30 has with the red kits are most likely from the brothers. Test 33 and 34 are double 2Cs. Two Schindler brothers married two Gestach sisters. Mom and test numbers 33 and 34 share two lines making them double second cousins once removed. A Schindler married a Gestach. This Schindler and Gestach where the uncle and aunt to the two Schindler brothers who married the two Gestach sisters. Without a chromosome browser and other methods of analysis it is impossible to determine how much of the shared DNA is from the Schindler line and how much is from the other shared line.

Schindler Shared Matches aSchindler Descendants Shared Matches.29

Just by looking at the chart you can see that Anna’s descendants are related to Joseph’s & Carolina’s descendants. What you can not determine is how they are related. There are four assertions that have been made. They are:

  • Assertion 1. All the children are Joseph and Carolina’s.
  • Assertion 2. Anna is Carolina’s niece.
  • Assertion 3. Anna is Carolina’s daughter.
  • Assertion 4. Anna is Joseph’s daughter.

The amount of shared DNA between the test takers does not show a clear cut answer to any of the assertions. There is a new tool in the beta stage that has the possibility of eliminating one or more of the assertions, called “Multiple Relationship Probability Tool.” Leah LaParle Larkin known as The DNA Geek has written a multi part article, “Science the Heck Out of Your DNA” explaining the principals behind this tool and how it came into being. Part one starts here.  Fair warning parts of the article can be very technical. The tool is primarily used by test takers who are adopted or have unknown parentage to help narrow down suspected ancestors of a specific test taker. In this case I am using the tool to generate the probabilities of the four assertions. The four assertions can be condensed to three hypotheses.

  • Hypothesis 1. (Assertion 1) All the children are Joseph and Carolina’s.
  • Hypothesis 2 (Assertion 2) Anna is Carolina’s niece.
  • Hypothesis 3 (Assertion 3 & 4) Anna is either Carolina’s daughter or Joseph’s daughter.

The tool shows all three hypotheses are possible. One and two have no strong support. Hypothesis 3 is almost 14 times more likely than the other two but not statistically/significantly more possible. By itself the DNA does not prove Anna is a daughter of Carolina or Joseph. When added to the paper trail it does add an infinitesimal amount of weight, so small that the DNA neither supports or refutes the paper trail that Joseph is Anna’s father.

So far only one of Anna’s descendants has uploaded their DNA files to one of the three sites with chromosome browsers, number 46. Ideally if numbers 19, 21 and 37 uploaded their DNA a more comprehensive comparison could be done. For example there are other Lux descendants not related to the Schindlers on FTDNA and GEDMatch. These test takers could be extremely helpful when looking at the probabilities and the actual segment data could help in further building the DNA profiles for Joseph and Carolina.


One of the requirements of the Genealogical Proof Standard or GPS is exhaustive research. I personally got Anna’s parentage wrong not once but twice, and I dropped the ball on evidence analysis. As I learned more and my experience grew so did the exhaustive research. When new records become available we need to make sure those records are applied to our past theories and probabilities. My hope is that if you are reading this you will take away the lessons I have learned and ask the following questions whenever you look at evidence.

  • How do I know this?
  • Where did the information come from?
  • Did I check all the possibilities?
  • What are the sources?

Final Thoughts:

During the 19th century, German marriage laws often prohibited marriage if the Church felt the groom would not be able to support a family. These laws led to an increase in illegitimate children and an increase in emigration. Many German couples emigrated to the U.S. with illegitimate children and married soon after their arrival.30 More information can be found here.

I have no idea what propelled Joseph to stand up and declare his fatherhood. Nor do I have any clue as to how he ended up marrying Carolina. I haven’t found evidence in the burial register for Baumgarten that Anna’s mother died. She could have moved home to Warta where the available parish registers end in 1784. If she died, it could be an explanation as to why Joseph declared his paternity. Was Joseph denied permission to marry Anna Maria Klein? If the denial was due to lack of resources, perhaps he was able to marry Carolina because she had resources from the death of her first husband, Anton Beck? The answers to these questions may never be discovered. Primarily due to the loss of records in the worst flooding in Poland’s history, known as The 1997 Central European Flood. In July 1997 the Oder River flooded the state archives in Wrocław, Poland. This archive is where the Landratsamt,[administrative district office records], the Katasteramt [land records] and the Amtsgericht [district court records] for Kreis Frankenstein are stored. All of Kreis Frankensteins records were damaged. The archive’s conservators have been trying to save as many records as possible. I just discovered a post on the website My Pomerania31 “Digitizing and Preserving Documents in Breslau” [Breslau is German for Wrocław] The author writes of the archives digitizing their records and posting them at Szukaj w Archiwach.  Remember exhaustive research? Guess where I will be poking around. That is once I figure out how the site is set up. Maybe I will find some answers!


Related Articles: One Leg of an Immigrant’s Journey: Liverpool, England to NYC in 1852.


  1. “Augusta Schindler,” Schindler Family Collection; privately held by Ann C Gilchrest. The identity of the author is most likely one of Augusta Schindler Muyres’ 11 children. Augusta the daughter of Joseph Schindler & Carolina Lux was born in 1860 in Minnesota. Copies of the document were passed to “The Schindler Girls,” Augusta’s niece’s. The Schindler Girls passed a copy to the authors mother who passed them to the author. 
  2. “Family Trees,” database Ancestry (http://ancestry.com : accessed 16 May 2018); 4 Public Member Trees and 7 private trees. Search parameters: Name Anna Schindler. Year of birth 1845 +/- 2 years. Father Joseph Schindler Mother Lux. 
  3. “New York Passenger Lists, 1820–1957,” digital images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 3 September 2010), passenger manifest Richard Morse, Liverpool, England to New York City, New York, arriving 23 July 1852, list 1005, line 159, entry for Anna Schindler age 7; citing “Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897,” NARA publication M237, roll 117. 1857 U.S. Special Territorial Census, Carver County, Minnesota, population schedule, Township 116, Range 23, p. 77 (penned), dwelling 719, family 720, Joseph Schneider; digital image, “Minnesota, Territorial Census, 1857,” FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org : accessed 27 January 2014); FHL microfilm 944283. Also see Ann C Gilchrest, “Where is the Joseph Schindler Family in the 1857 Minnesota Territorial Census?” Minnesota Genealogist, Fall 2014, Vol. 45, No. 3, p. 6–9. 1860 U.S. Census Carver County, Minnesota, population schedule, Chanhassen, p.360 (penned), dwelling 637, family 556, Joseph Schindler household; NARA microfilm publication M653, roll 567. Guardian Angels Catholic Church (Chaska, Minnesota), Church Census, family no. 59, Joseph Schindler; Guardian Angels Catholic Church parish rectory. The census is written in Latin including the place names. Countries are not given; however, states/provinces within a county are given. Scott County, Minnesota, Marriage Records, vol. B, p. 131, marriage of John Schwartz & Anna Schindler, 10 September 1868; Scott County, Government Center, Shakopee. Marriage license names John Schwatz, and Anna Schindler, names on return John Schwarz and Anne Schindler. Both are listed as residents of Scott County. Witnesses Peter Droitcour and Mary Schindler. Filed 2 October 1868. Minnesota Department of Health, death certificate no. 1928–MN–003816, Mrs Anna M Schwartz; MHS microfilm 1928 roll 3 (Certificates 3610-5850), Minnesota Historical Society, St. Paul. 
  4. Ann C Gilchrest, “European Origins of Joseph Schindler and Carolina Lux of Carver County, Minnesota,” Minnesota Genealogist, Summer 2013, Vol. 44, No. 2, p. 12–22. 
  5. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Heiraten 1800–1872, unpaginated, 1847, no. 20, Joseph Schindler & Carolina Beck nee Lux , 28 September; FHL microfilm 1456638. 
  6. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Taufens 1826–1850, 1849, p. 2, no. 6, Joseph Hieronimus Schindler, 14 January; FHL microfilm 1456638. 
  7. Minnesota Department of Health, death certificate no. 1926–MN–001975, Joseph Schindler; MHS microfilm 1926 roll 1 (Certificates 1-2093), Minnesota Historical Society, St. Paul. 
  8. Guardian Angels Catholic Church (Chaska, Minnesota), Church Census, family no. 59, Joseph Schindler; Guardian Angels Catholic Church parish rectory. Minnesota Department of Health, death certificate, no. 1928–MN–003816, Mrs Anna Schwartz; MHS microfilm 1928 roll 3 (Certificates 3610-5850), Minnesota Historical Society, St. Paul. 
  9. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Heiraten 1800–1872, unpaginated, 1843, no. 9, Anton Beck & Carolina Lux, 8 May; FHL microfilm 1456638. 
  10. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Tote 1800–1877, unpaginated, 1846, no. 83, Anton Beck, 19 November; FHL microfilm 1456639, item 2. 
  11. Ann C Gilchrest, “European Origins of Joseph Schindler and Carolina Lux of Carver County, Minnesota,” Minnesota Genealogist, Summer 2013, Vol. 44, No. 2, p. 12–22. 
  12. “Family Trees,” database Ancestry (http://ancestry.com : accessed 16 May 2018); 8 Public Member Trees and 3 private trees. Search parameters: Name Anna Beck. Year of birth 1845 +/- 2 years. Father Beck. Mother Lux. 
  13. Map Outline. Keven M. Hansen, Map Guide to German Parish Registers Kingdom of  Prussia – Provence of SILESIA II Regierungsbezirk Breslau (Orting, Washington: Family Roots Publishing, 2016), p. 328. 
  14. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Heiraten 1800–1872, unpaginated, 1843, no. 9, Anton Beck & Carolina Lux, 8 May; FHL microfilm 1456638. 
  15. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Tote 1800–1877, unpaginated, 1846, no. 83, Anton Beck, 19 November; FHL microfilm 1456639, item 2. 
  16. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Heiraten 1800–1872, unpaginated, 1847, no. 20, Joseph Schindler & Carolina Beck nee Lux , 28 September; FHL microfilm 1456638. 
  17. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Taufens 1826–1850, 1849, p. 2, no. 6, Joseph Hieronimus Schindler, 14 January; FHL microfilm 1456638. 
  18. Baumgarten Parish (Kreis Frankenstein, Silesia), Tote 1800-1877, unpaginated, 1846, no. 83, Anton Beck, 19 November; FHL microfilm 1456639, item 2. 
  19. “Understanding Levator Ani Syndrome,” healthline (www.healthline.com/health/levator-ani-syndrome : accessed 18 May 2018). 
  20. Ibid. 
  21. Guardian Angels Catholic Church (Chaska, Minnesota), Church Census, family no. 59, Joseph Schindler; Guardian Angels Catholic Church parish rectory. 
  22. Minnesota Department of Health, death certificate no. 1928–MN–003816, Mrs Anna M Schwartz; MHS microfilm 1928 roll 3 (Certificates 3610-5850), Minnesota Historical Society, St. Paul. 
  23. Guardian Angels Catholic Church (Chaska, Minnesota), Church Census, family no. 59, Joseph Schindler; Guardian Angels Catholic Church parish rectory.. 
  24. Ibid. 
  25. Known as the McGuire method, the chart is a simplified way to show matching DNA between multiple test takers. It was developed by Laurie McGuire. 
  26. “Shared matches are people in your DNA list whom you share with other matches on your list.” “AncestryDNA Shared Matches,” Ancestry (https://ancestry.com : accessed 27 Mary 2018). 
  27. The Shared cM Project is a project where people who have done DNA tests and have known matches can submit how much DNA a specific relationship shares. The latest update was done in August 2017. While there can be outliers in the data much of that is mitigated by the number of submissions. For more information see The Genetic Genealogist here. 
  28. Joseph Jerome’s wife’s parents hailed from Laugenau, Wurttemburg Germany. Albertine’s and Anna’s spouses hailed from Schwemlingen, Kreis Merzig, Trier, Germany. Frank’s spouse’s family hailed from Roßhaupten, Ostallgau, Bayern, Germany. Christine’s spouse’s family hailed from the Netherlands. Wilhelm’s spouse’s family hailed from Austria and Bavaria. 
  29.   Guardian Angels Catholic Church (Chaska, Minnesota), Church Census, family no. 59, Josephus Schindler; Guardian Angels Catholic Church parish rectory. The census is written in Latin. 1. Josephus Schindler nata 6 Dec 1818 ex Dioce. Wratislavienis, Prussia.
    2. Carolina, nata Luxx, agens 44 annis ex Dioce. Wratislavienis, Prussia. Proles (Offspring) 1. Anna, nata 11 Nov. 18442. Josephus nata 10 Jannes 1849. 3. Maria nata 21 Julii 1850. 4. Albertine nata 16 Septb, 1851. 5. Joannes nata 10 Martii 1853. 6. Frances nata 21 Octbr 1854. 7. Christina nata 15 Decbr 1856. 8. Augustina nate 9 Martii 1858. 9. Wilhelmus Marcius n. ad. 1862 10 Aprilis. 10. Henricus nata 31 Jan 1864 mortuus est. 11. Paulus 11 Juni 1866. 
  30. German Genealogy Marriage Customs, Laws and Records,” Genealoger (http://www.genealoger.com : accessed 23 May 2018). German Genealogy>Marriage Customs. 
  31. “Digitizing and Preserving Documents in Breslau,” My Pomerania, 7 April 2018 (https://mypomerania.com : accessed 27 May 2018). 

13 thoughts on “When You Get It WRONG Not Once, Not Twice But Three Times!

  1. tschwartz1935wowwaycom

    I agree with Dan. You have a great eye for detail, not just in your research but in your observation of the world around you. I like your descriptions of places; they show respect for where events arise and help understanding of why and how they arise. So what should we now be saying in our Ancestry trees about Anna’s parentage — or should we wait until you’ve done additional poking around?

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    1. agilchrest

      I have changed mine, one that I am an editor on Ancestry and the FamilySearch tree to show that Anna was the daughter of Joseph Schindler and Anna Maria Klein. If I find more I will have to change them all again! I listed her name as Anna Maria Theresia Klein as that is her birth name.


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  3. I can’t get Anna M.T. Klein’s story out of my head. Who was her mother, Anna Klein, the maid? In whose house? What kind of relationship did she have with Jos. Nicholas? What was her fate in 1850s Germany? As you deduce, Anna was almost seven years old when Joseph declared his paternity. Was this the first time she knew her father? How did her siblings react to her when they discovered a new sister? Was her mother alive and did Anna Maria Theresia rever her? Did her children know she was Joseph’s daughter from a previous relationship? If you find that time machine, Ann, please invite me aboard.

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    1. agilchrest

      In 1851 Joseph J was two and a half, Mary was almost a year old and Albertine wasn’t born yet. Did Anna’s siblings know she was a half sister? If they did I don’t think it mattered to them. Mary was a witness for Anna’s marriage to John Schwartz. And Anna is in the group photograph with her siblings.

      Anna’s death certificate might be a clue that her own children knew, her mother is listed as unknown. Although there is no informant recorded.

      I will keep you posted on the time machine!

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  4. Loved your post! My family’s story, based on typewritten genealogy of oral family history from an elderly great-aunt, is that we are descended from Jacob Postens (1755-1831) and Anne Burson (1764-1847) of Pennsylvania. My research, which I hope is reasonably exhaustive, does not support the claim. Still looking for Jacob’s parents. I haven’t yet had a DNA match from any known descendants of Jacob and Anne. Anne’s mother’s maiden name was Price and one cousin claims a DNA match with Price descendants. The jury is still out!


      1. Susanellerbee had typewritten treasures from those great-aunts. You present wonderful notes and page through aged books. I wonder if our descendants will find pleasure from staring at a glossy screen, to extract interesting tidbits from our non-stop stale input. I have a dear cousin who writes me regularly. It is strange how her communications are save-worthy, while the bulk of email that I receive from other relatives, are deleted.

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